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  Conversation LeaderJosh (Social Media Pastor)

  Welcome to The Conversation, we’re glad you came for a visit. Please enjoy the devotion, take a look at what our conversation leaders have shared, and let us know what’s happening in your life as a result of God’s truth. We really want to hear your story and share in your growth. Thanks for coming!

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  Conversation LeaderEd (Strategic Advancement)

  Jim Carrey joins NorthRidge Church!

  Well, not exactly. However, his cameo appearances over the past two weeks during our weekend gatherings have been refreshing. I love the guy, I love humor and I love how we can find wisdom in some of the most unlikely of places.

  Back in the early days of email, there was AOL. My tag line for my account wasn’t exactly from Proverbs, but I loved it. “It takes a big man to cry, but it takes an even bigger man to laugh at that man.” – Deep Thoughts By Jack Handy (from Saturday Night Live). This shows my own sense of humor, but the “deep thoughts” were a hit and struck a cord in the early 90s.

  But in all sincerity, many of us like wise quotes, but we often struggle to apply them. Brad referenced a passage in the talk,I Kings 3:5-28. I’ll be using it, as well as our weekly devotional, as context for my comments this week.

  If you knew that God would grant you any wish, what would you ask for? Money? Health? Happiness? Solomon asked to be wise, and to know “the difference between right and wrong.” The request itself showed remarkable wisdom, but it also made a great deal of sense given the circumstances.

  At the time of Solomon’s request, he was only about 20 years old. Are you serious? Who asks for that…and then? He knew he was young, inexperienced and burdened with immense responsibility of leading a nation.

  But, Solomon knew something else. He had watched his father through ups and downs. He knew that God was faithful to his children. Solomon’s request was not aimless, but based on experiences he had seen with God’s people. He is in over his head and he needs God to lead him through the high expectations of leadership.

  This week, the goal of “The Conversation” is simple; helping people reflect the teachings of Jesus and faith in God in their convictions and priorities, and to reflect their convictions and priorities in their actions and decisions. The former is easy, but the latter is where I find my challenges.

  Hebrews 13:5b God encourages us by saying, “Never will I leave you; never will I forsake you”. If he promises this relationship…then who moved? Think about it as you go through this day.

  This week’s devotion ends with a simple question: “What are some things you could start doing today to gather God’s wisdom?” My reply this morning…ASK FOR IT…he is faithful.

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    Pam

    in reply to Ed (Strategic Advancement)

    Whenever I ask God to give me more patience and to think before I speak or act, I end up in a situation that is supposed to teach me just that, but I barely catch myself in time. It also seems that the more I ask the harder it gets. I feel like Pastor Brad when he says that he does not learn anything! LOL!

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    So

    in reply to Ed (Strategic Advancement)

    Good advice. I will keep asking and see if I can gain some wisdom into my situation.

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    Mike Johnson

    in reply to Ed (Strategic Advancement)

    I agree totally with Pam. Something I have been learning lately is that a lot of things like wisdom or discernment or the such, God has actually already given us. Pastor Brad said in his talk that the book of Proverbs is 31 chapters I believe. He said that if we read one chapter and a few extra verses a day, we could read the book of Proverbs every month or 12 times a year. That book of course has always been there during my lifetime. The wisdom of God was just a few turns of some pages away. Yet, how often have I asked, “Lord, give me wisdom.” I guess I should have been listening, because hes been telling me all along that hes already given me it in his word I just needed to make it a priority to put the resource to use! This also got me thinking about how many other things have I been asking for and praying about that God has already provided for me either in his word or other resources but I have not looked for them or pursued them! Loved this talk! Really has me thinking!

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  Conversation LeaderCarrie (Discovery Island)

  I am pretty sure that I am the most at peace with myself when I’m walking close to God and His principles. The only way I can do that is stay in His word and ensure I understand His expectations for my life. He tells us to keep His word everywhere. I wonder if my husband would mind me writing Gods truth on the doorpost like in Deut. 6:9 so I would not forget? Huh, I might try it!

  I have been caught in a situation before where someone has asked me advice about their dilemma and I have, in my humanity, reacted to their situation with frustration and even anger that the person who wronged them was clearly the loser they made themselves out to be. I have to recall my words, and ask forgiveness for my quick tongue and lack of ability to separate my emotion from God’s truth. I can’t say I always react with the grace I should today, but I know for a fact that knowing what God says about people and their need for Him, has helped me reign in on my tongue and allow His words to ring even stronger!

  Again, I know this, the peace of God overwhelms me when I allow Him to be in control. One of those ways I see Him in control is when His words are ringing true in my mind, speech and circumstances. So, hold tight to Him. We are on this journey together. Seek His truth and when you fall get back up and try again with His help even more prevalent in your life!

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  Elizabeth

  I think this is one of the first times I did not feel guilty hearing a sermon. I had vowed I would read all of Proverbs before the series was over and Im 1/2 way through. I dont usually act from wisdom. This week I read from my bible and other readings on health. I had injured my ankle and I was at my husbands mercy. At the beginning of the week I was furious at him for not careing for me the way I thought he should. I did not act on my anger. I prayed and read alot. To my surprise by this Sunday, I was completely at peace and my husband was a better caregiver. I dont think it was my husband at all, I was changed. Thank you God!

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    Conversation LeaderJosh (Social Media Pastor)

    in reply to Elizabeth

    What a great, practical example of wisdom at work. So cool.

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    Conversation LeaderCarrie (Discovery Island)

    in reply to Elizabeth

    I love it when we feel the responsibility for our own actions and then see the results from good ones!

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  Bev Bettega

  Even at the age of almost 73, I still haven’t all the wisdom needed for this busy life. I am going to make certain that I pray for wisdom every day!

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    Conversation LeaderJosh (Social Media Pastor)

    in reply to Bev Bettega

    Never a bad prayer!

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    Ed Ollie

    in reply to Bev Bettega

    At 73, to still be actively asking the question…on the internet no less, you are my hero today!

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  Rita

  The biggest change in my Christian walked happened 10 years ago when I started memorizing Scripture. When a particular verse catches my heart, I commit it to memory. I have a verse that I haved claimed each of the past 10 years as my “verse for the year”. It amazes me to see how the Lord weaves that verse into the fabric of my life each year. There is nothing like having the wisdom of God on the tip of your tongue. This practice and discipline has been life changing for me!

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    Conversation LeaderJosh (Social Media Pastor)

    in reply to Rita

    Hiding scripture in our hearts is a great way to make sure we have it when we need it. I still have verses in my heart from when I was in children’s church. They have served me well.

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    Ed Ollie

    in reply to Rita

    Thanks Rita. I don’t think we realize how powerful the word really is. It is quick, powerful…and a weapon in times of weakness. Isaiah 41:10 encourages us not to fear, because we know in whom we’ve put our trust…and that he is beyond faithful in protecting us. Thanks for reminder this morning.

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  Warren

  Can I trust God? I have always assumed I trusted God but as I get older and experience the frustrations of life, hear the tribulation and suffering of fellow believers and watch many that no longer are walking a journey with God, there always seems to be a voice in the background, “can you really trust God?” and “what does it mean really trust God?”

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    Conversation LeaderJosh (Social Media Pastor)

    in reply to Warren

    Such a good insight Warren. I think we all, when we take a good long look at our choices, would say we have trust issues. We must keep turning to Him and following His voice each day. It is through experiencing His trustworthy nature that we gain confidence to continue trusting.

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    Conversation LeaderCarrie (Discovery Island)

    in reply to Warren

    Trust is a weird thing. Just when we think we got it and and can give it, something happens that comes our way and makes us take it back. This is where I find comfort in the fact that scripture tells us we can die to ourselves. In other words, we have to take the control out of our hands and say, okay God, What do you have in store for me to be a part of. It’s His story not ours. It’s kind of taking in a new perspective I think. But, hey you are not alone. We all deal with it and have to keep taking to back to Him and saying here ya go God! That’s why I love that He is so approachable. dajdflakdjfla

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    Conversation LeaderEd (Strategic Advancement)

    in reply to Warren

    Warren, I appreciate you keeping it real. It is the question that challenges many. It also is precisely why you hear us encourage that people engage in community and/or small groups. Who we are around influences our perspective. It times of deep questions (see Kelly’s comments below), where we find our information, inspiration, encouragement, and next steps is critical in our ability to remain faithful in the pursuit of Christ…and his wisdom for our lives.

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    Marion

    in reply to Warren

    Warren, I hear your concern and pray that you will find that the answer is definitely YES, we can trust God. Even when we don’t understand why some things happen. Suffering is difficult but think of any relationship in your life, the more you get to know someone the more you can trust that person, or distrust them also. When you trust someone you will not always like what they do, but that they will do what they SAY they will do. God is faithful at his Word. What we can trust is that God sent his son to make a way to have a relationship with you and me, when times feel difficult; hold on to that trust by faith. Surround yourself with those that can share with you the encouragement of why they trust in God. it will help.

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  Schel

  I find myself asking for wisdom when it comes to difficult situations but this talk really made me think and reminded me that I need to ask for HIS wisdom everyday, all day, in everything I do. This makes so much sense to me yet I never really thought about it before.

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    Conversation LeaderCarrie (Discovery Island)

    in reply to Schel

    It might be easier now to let Him have the little things! He has something in store for us every day and we just have to have out eyes open for it! I love it! Great insight!

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  Robert D. Zader

  I was concerned when Brad opened his talk with basically the premise “Wisdom is the ultimate truth”. It is true we all pursue the results of wisdom ie. praying for what God can give Me, rather than to Love God himself. ” Make wisdom your priority.” My concern wasn’t really brought to light until Brad explained that you get wisdom from God. That’s why we need a relationship with God, which up to this point has always been my number one priority. As usual, Brad was and is the Best. Thanks for sharing your gift with us as we grow in our love of Christ.

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    Conversation LeaderJosh (Social Media Pastor)

    in reply to Robert D. Zader

    I love when I disagree or am concerned with something Brad says at the beginning, only to agree with him at the end. It peaks my interest and keeps me engaged.

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  Kelly

  I have always been a seeker of information. I have always had a need to know. I have always felt happier when actively seeking. This service reaffirmed the importance of finding that knowledge. Wisdom comes from so many different places, it comes in the form of information, it comes in the form of real life experience, it comes in the form of God answering prayer, it comes in the form of doing and observing. Everywhere I turn there is somebody who can infuse my life with wisdom, no one is too young or too old to contribute, but you have to be open and ready to receive. Thank you Lord for opening my heart and mind up to receive your gift of Wisdom, I am not worthy but through Your love and grace I accept this gift humbly and responsibly. Please let me use it to serve others and to share Your love and compassion with those in need. Amen!

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    Conversation LeaderCarrie (Discovery Island)

    in reply to Kelly

    Keep seeking Him!!! His word is the ultimate truth and I am thankful we have that to guide us!

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    Conversation LeaderEd (Strategic Advancement)

    in reply to Kelly

    Great reminder Kelly. It was this heart that David had…and kept him close to God, despite his numerous moral struggles. His heart remained tender…and when he was wrong, he was quick to seek forgiveness and grace from God. When discovered, or confronted with the truth of wisdom, we can be changed.

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  Cindy Houtz

  I appreciate all the input. I am still studying ‘trust’ too. I have searched my concordance for all the related scriptures on “trust”. They have lead me to understand that God wants us to rely on Him, remain steadfast and have confidence in Him. This all leads back to our faith. Question I ask myself is ‘why am I stressing myself out with life; when God promises to take care of me’(?) Then, after hearing the message this w/e about wisdom and praying for that; I read this scripture that we all know so well…(Pr 3:5+6) “Trust in the LORD with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct your paths.” The voice of wisdom is telling me that I have not ‘fully’ trusted in God- nor have I acknowledged Him ‘in all my ways’. This is a good starting place for me. For now, I am going to take one day at a time and practice acknowledging God in all my ways. Hmm…… my time, my talents, my tithes, my testimony,my offerings, my thoughts, my faithfulness, my obedience, my speech,my responses to my husband (like Elizebeth above, ha!). This should keep me pretty busy.

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    Conversation LeaderJosh (Social Media Pastor)

    in reply to Cindy Houtz

    I find it funny that I get much LESS busy when I acknowledge God first. I do much less that is unimportant or unwise and instead invest better. I also avoid poor choices that lead to wasted time. But developing that habit is still pretty tricky. Working toward consistence.

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    Conversation LeaderEd (Strategic Advancement)

    in reply to Cindy Houtz

    Cindy, I love the intentionality of your comments. It reminds me that it is indeed a journey, but that those critical “baby steps” of obedience that lead to transformation. He’s willing to drive if we yield the keys.

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  Ed Ollie

  In thinking about the devotinal and talk over the past 48 hours, it struck in a fresh way that I have an ACTIVE role to play in the pursuit of wisdom. In Prov. 3:13-15, two words jump off the page: “finds” and “gains”. There is a relentless pursuit involved. Wisdom, in fact, is life. I get spiritually lazy, trusting in my own knowledge, abilities, and/or gifts. Honestly, it never turns out for the best when I take the road most traveled.

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  Bernie Ritchey

  I read somewhere to never mistake knowledge for wisdom, one helps you make a living and one helps you make a life. So, I really loved Brad’s explanation that wisdom is seeing life from God’s point of view.

  I often have enough knowledge of a particular situation but I don’t always have/use the wisdom to choose the right decision regarding the situation. Usually because it doesn’t seem to fit “my” plan or what “I” want at that particular moment. So the “looking at it from God’s point of view” really hit home.

  I wish I had the “wisdom” to join a church like NorthRidge long ago. Being a member of a Church so relevant where you really do feel like a member of a family, which offers so many ways to help you grow in your relationship with God is such a blessing. I have grown in my walk more in the past 2 years than all the years before combined.

  So here is to making wisdom a PRIORITY and a PURSUIT!

  By the way, loving the new Small Group T-shirts!

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    Conversation LeaderEd (Strategic Advancement)

    in reply to Bernie Ritchey

    Thanks Bernie! One of the great gifts in the place is watching stories like yours unfold. It is amazing what happens when we get out of God’s way, consulting him first for direction. What a novel thought…here’s to consistency.

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    Conversation LeaderCarrie (Discovery Island)

    in reply to Bernie Ritchey

    The small group shirts are awesome… I’ve got to get myself one of them! NRC is a great place to grow for sure! I think your goal of making wisdom from God a priority and a pursuit is just what Brad was asking us to do!

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  Natasha

  It seems like I have been going to church since before I was born. And it is amazing that at times I will find myself in a situation and a scripture will come to mind. A scripture that I may not have thought about for years. A scripture that I didn’t even know that I knew. A scripture that is so relevant to the situation that I find myself in or that I can share with others.

  Your word have I hid in my heart that I might not sin against You. – Psalm 119:11

  In John 14:26, Jesus says that “the Holy Spirit will teach you everything and remind you of everything I had told you.”

  I love the use of the word “remind” in the scripture in John. If we read and study God’s word, the knowledge will be there in our hearts — then the Holy Spirit will remind us of it and show us how to apply that knowledge to our situations … WISDOM.

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    Conversation LeaderEd (Strategic Advancement)

    in reply to Natasha

    So true Natasha. Isn’t it funny how things will come back to mind in some of the oddest of circumstances! When we put reminding + doing it = Winning! Yes, that piece of innovation is free:)

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    Conversation LeaderCarrie (Discovery Island)

    in reply to Natasha

    Isn’t it funny how God allows all the parts of Him to help us! We need the Holy Spirit in our lives to challenge us in the every day tasks. I love that scripture in John. Thank you for sharing!

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  Gail Neal

  Something I’m currently doing to gain wisdom by hiding God’s word in my heart: When I hear a Scripture that I want to remember, I print it out (thank you BibleGateway!) and put it in a small binder that I read through every day.

  I used to read a chapter of Proverbs a day, but stopped — I guess I thought I knew it all! Last night I read Proverbs 18. I am publicly — YIKES!!! — recommiting to reading a chapter of Proverbs a day.

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    Conversation LeaderEd (Strategic Advancement)

    in reply to Gail Neal

    LOL…I love it Gail! A mentor of mind had a habit he developed with his family. Daily, he read the Psalm and Proverb that coincided with the day of the month! Wise. I asked him what he did with Psalms…that has a few more chapters:) He said we just double up until we cover it all. Think of where the kids were in their teens…at times, they’d use the scripture on their parents!

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    Conversation LeaderJosh (Social Media Pastor)

    in reply to Gail Neal

    Way to go Gail! I hope God allows you to see it with fresh eyes.

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    Ronald Ponkey

    in reply to Gail Neal

    I carry note cards in my pocket…and try to memorize too

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  Conversation LeaderEd (Strategic Advancement)

  A Mid-Afternoon Thought with Ed (if Jack Handy were the writer of Proverbs)

  “As the light changed from red to green to yellow and back to red again, I sat there thinking about life. Was it nothing more than a bunch of honking and yelling? Sometimes it seemed that way.”

  I’m so glad Proverbs offers us so much more…”He who ignores discipline despises himself, but whoever heeds correction gains understanding (Proverbs 15:32).” Thank God for the people in my life who took the time and had the courage to correct me. It may have taken 53 times, but I’m yielding some fruit!

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    Conversation LeaderJosh (Social Media Pastor)

    in reply to Ed (Strategic Advancement)

    Only 53? I’m impressed!

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  Conversation LeaderEd (Strategic Advancement)

  Many of the thoughts surrounding wisdom have bounced back to our first week reflections concerning “trusting God” as well. A short story from John Piper that illustrates the opportunity of Trusting God for Wisdom. May it encourage you as you head toward the finish line today!

  “Your daddy is standing in a swimming pool out a little bit from the edge. You are, let’s say, three years old and standing on the edge of the pool. Daddy holds out his arms to you and says, “Jump, I’ll catch you. I promise.” Now, how do you make your daddy look good at that moment? Answer: trust him and jump. Have faith in him and jump. That makes him look strong and wise and loving. But if you won’t jump, if you shake your head and run away from the edge, you make your daddy look bad. It looks like you are saying, “he can’t catch me” or “he won’t catch me” or “it’s not a good idea to do what he tells me to do.” And all three of those make your dad look bad.

  But you don’t want to make God look bad. So you trust him. Then you make him look good–which he really is. And that is what we mean when we say, “Faith glorifies God” or “Faith gives God glory.” It makes him look as good as he really is. So trusting God is really important.

  And the harder it seems for him to fulfill his promise, the better he looks when you trust him. Suppose that you are at the deep end of a pool by the diving board. You are four years old and can’t swim, and your daddy is at the other end of the pool. Suddenly a big, mean dog crawls under the fence and shows his teeth and growls at you and starts coming toward you to bite you. You crawl up on the diving board and walk toward the end to get away from him. The dog puts his front paws up on the diving board. Just then, your daddy sees what’s happening and calls out, “Johnny, jump in the water. I’ll get you.”

  Now, you have never jumped from one meter high and you can’t swim and your daddy is not underneath you and this water is way over your head. How do you make your daddy look good in that moment? You jump. And almost as soon as you hit the water, you feel his hands under your arms and he treads water holding you safely while someone chases the dog away. Then he takes you to the side of the pool.

  We give glory to God when we trust him to do what he has promised to do–especially when all human possibilities are exhausted. Faith glorifies God. That is why God planned for faith to be the way we are justified.”

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  Conversation LeaderCarrie (Discovery Island)

  When I was young it was easy for me to memorize things. As I get older, it seems harder, or maybe it’s just cause I don’t take the time and effort to memorize like I used to. So, here are a couple of things I have done to remedy this. If one particular scripture is one that I know I struggle with or one I would want to share, I print it out on a piece of paper and tape it at my desk, on my mirror, on the sun visor in my car (Not sure if that is any better than texting while you drive btw). I make it in front of me so I see it often. Another things I did was, I found a book that provides scripture by topic. So, when counseling people with certain topics (God says there is nothing new under the sun), I can look it up in this book and then memorize it so I can recall it when needed. It has been very helpful!

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  Conversation LeaderCarrie (Discovery Island)

  I love how Ps 119:11 (ESV) says I have “Stored” up. It reminds me of the ants or the squirrels gathering food… they save it for when it’s needed. God created all His creatures to conserve what they might need for the future. We have to value what we have right in front of us. His provisions through scripture are meat to our souls just like the food the animals gather!

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  Ken

  In almost ALL of the scriptures making known the wonder of wisdom there was a companion ever present and that companion was or is understanding. To paraphrase with all thy “getting” get wisdom and “get understanding.” Wisdom may be the refined gold in God’s treasure house but understanding is the multi facet diamond treasured or valued as twin. Wisdom and understanding are the keys to the kingdom of God’s open door as is faith and love to the promised land shore. The apostle Paul speaks of a SPIRITUAL SENSE in , ” the ‘eyes of your understanding’ being enlightened.” It was the simple admonition of Paul to “know Christ and make Him known.” Wisdom in the scriptures is not the practice of a combined knowledge and understanding, it is the revelation of the Word of God spoken by the unction of the Holy Spirit to the surrendered heart of a man or woman. The intellect is of very little value to no value in this process, and it is not a practice, but it is a continued REVELATION. When Jesus asked Peter “who do you say I am?” it was Peter who responded, ” Thou art Christ, Son of the Living God.” Flesh and blood ( man or woman ) did not REVEAL this enlightement to Peter. This was a small example of what Paul experienced and demonstrated many.many times. The Word of God became enlightened in the “eyes of his understanding” It is the Spirit of revelation which made this truth not before known to Peter in the blink of an eye or a sudden wind upon his yielded soul. It is the Word by the Spirit which gives LIFE to a man the flesh profits nothing!!! I can memorize scriptures and study as many do, but unless the Word is REVEALED or MADE NEW by the Holy Spirit ,what I read or study is no more valuable than a history book. The waters of the word must be studied and valued, yes, but unless the water (changes) becomes wine the word is dead letter, stale, void of significance and power. A mission statement is complete in the simple expression ” TO KNOW HIM AND MAKE HIM KNOWN.” All else is mere word play and those lists of dirty dozens ” this is what I believe” which has no power to do anything of value. Is there anyone who can recall Christ responding in the heat of the moment to critics by declaring ” This is what I belief!?” How about not Once!? The devils believe also and they tremble of course. What scripture then articulates this wisdom of God or revelation of God? There are too may to declare but we know as obedience and faith are as twin so in the New Testament is WISDOM and REVELATION or understanding companions as well. Let us complete this little mini message from the epistle of Paul to the Ephesians: 1:17 ” That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of WISDOM and REVELATION in the KNOWLEDGE OF HIM.” Knowing Christ is a journey, it is a process, it is valuable learning lessons, it is admitting defeat at times, it is being called, and stripped of what we think we know and hold dear, and it is BEING RESTORED by the mercy, grace, and revelation (truth) of the BEautiful One who is Christ. To paraphrase Job, ” I knew him from afar, or by the hearing of the ears, but now my EYE sees Him!” We need to get our entire head washed in the waters of the water. When we arise out the watersof the word the Holy Spirit will descend like a dove upon us and enlighten the WORD BY SPIRIT to our understanding. We will be changed into the new man. It is ABSOLUTELY not enough or sufficient to have my head immersed in a tank of water. This is akin to the obedience of the kindertgarten believer in Christ, It is a nice sacrament, but no more than a step in a 1000 mile journey. We need to be immersed, however, in the waters of regeneration, the word by the spirit, and then behold how the changes will be wrought in these hearts sold out to Him. I Corinth. 6:11… but you are washed, but you are sanctified, but you are justified, in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.”

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    Conversation LeaderJosh (Social Media Pastor)

    in reply to Ken

    Man Ken, it appears you have much to say on the subject. Thanks for taking the time to share it.

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  Scott

  as I have heard the story of Solomon before and asked for wisdom many of tmes since then, I have asked for Heavenly wisdom, WOW. my problem is that I dont act when I hear God speaking to me, I know I have the knowledge He has given me but a lot of times I dont use it, so once we ask for it we must use what God has given to us or what is the use of having it. as I have tried doing things my way with al my wisdom, I find it is again my wisdom and rationalizing that got me where I am today and that I didnt use the wisdom God had given me and have to struggle twice as hard to catch back to where God wants me to be.

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    Conversation LeaderJosh (Social Media Pastor)

    in reply to Scott

    Wisdom is not wisdom until it’s applied. I have to keep telling myself that.

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    Conversation LeaderEd (Strategic Advancement)

    in reply to Scott

    Scott, I like that you recognize the fact that we all have choices. It is the discipline we maintain in the midst of those choices, based on God’s word and “His” ways, that make the difference.

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  CathyM

  Years ago, while reading a devotional, I came across a saying that has stuck with me.

  He who knows not, and knows not that he knows not is a fool, shun him.
  He who knows not, and knows that he knows not is a child, teach him.
  He who knows, and knows not that he knows is asleep, waken him.
  He who knows, and knows that he knows is wise, follow him.

  I want to follow the wise guy and the wisest guy I know is Jesus!

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    Conversation LeaderJosh (Social Media Pastor)

    in reply to CathyM

    That’s a pretty cool saying. I like it! Challenging too.

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    Conversation LeaderEd (Strategic Advancement)

    in reply to CathyM

    Thanks Cathy! You keep that up and you’ll be moderating tomorrow:) I like it because the quote itself shows the process of maturity…if you are aware of who you are.

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  Sandra Afetian

  Being without words is the hardest thing when your trying very hard to express your wishes, to your kids or spouse. You only have (it seems) five seconds to get a lifetime of wisdom out before you lose there attention!

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    Conversation LeaderEd (Strategic Advancement)

    in reply to Sandra Afetian

    I agree Sandra. While words are important, I think they are often overrated. I know a lot of people who use a plethora of words, but often leave not saying anything. Sometimes, the ministry of “presence” is as powerful as words. Now kids, I’m with you…it takes a lifetime, or maybe 20 years for it to sink in:). My wife is still wondering when I’ll learn certain lessons:)

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    Conversation LeaderCarrie (Discovery Island)

    in reply to Sandra Afetian

    Sometimes our wisdom has to be lived out and not just spoken. Keep living the life God calls us to live and don’t fall into the trap of feeling the need to tell all the time. It’s hard for us mommas and wives. We are fixers. I will be praying that you are able to live strong and they will continue to see His light shine bright in you.

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    Michelle

    in reply to Sandra Afetian

    Sandra, I find this to be SO true. I guess this is why it’s so important for us to be praying in advance for the wisdom to say the right thing when the moment arises!!

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  Jennifer

  Before Brad even finished his sentence about “just one wish”, my “just one wish” jumped right into the forefront of my brain, begging to be noticed. Unfortunately, my wish isn’t one of which I’m terribly proud, because it’s a perfect illustration of where I am in my life right now, and I don’t like it. My “just one wish”? Well, it’s for an infinite amount of wishes, of course. See, that way, I can be completely in control, and I don’t really have to rely on anybody…even God. I can’t even get to the wisdom stuff. I’m still stuck back in last weekend with trust.

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    Conversation LeaderJosh (Social Media Pastor)

    in reply to Jennifer

    I think we’re all stuck on last weekend. Trust is something we will struggle with right up until we are made perfect in Him. Keep at it. It takes practice.

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    Conversation LeaderCarrie (Discovery Island)

    in reply to Jennifer

    The one thing I’ve learned in in the last 10yrs of my life is that Trusting in God is has to be the constant in my life. I hold tight to the verse in Deut 31:6. It says Be strong and take courage. He goes with you. He will not fail you or forsake you. See, that brings me comfort. I have had people fail me and make me feel like I could never trust again, but God promises that He won’t. I don’t know what you are going through or what you are worrying about but He promises he won’t leave. He won’t ever turn His back on you! He is the best of the best.

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    Michelle

    in reply to Carrie (Discovery Island)

    Doesn’t it seem sometimes like you can trust God riiiiiiight about up to the point where you turn out of the NRC parking lot? Keep up the fight, girlfriend, and remember, the “real” battle has already been won!!!!

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  Niels Pedersen

  I been reading proverbs alot this last 2 – 3 weeks and I have found a number of passages that are of great help and are of real use to me showing that I still have hope. For example Proverbs 18:24 “A man of many companions may come to ruin, but there is a freind who sticks closer than a brother” , to me I know God is my best freind, but also It shows I dont need a lot of fake freinds if all I have is single true freind. This makes me think what is the pupose of Facebook ? If we all think of this verse and realize it doesn’t matter how many internet freinds we have just for the single purpose of pride in the number of freinds we have registered. I was kicked out of my home 2 weeks after my senior year and I had moved many times from apartment to someones couch to a strangers extra room, and moved 4 more times after I was married and I believe that God gave me one true freind here to help me everytime I needed to move or help in anyother way. Even tho we live miles apart and see each other a few times a year hes my only true freind outside my emidiate family. 17 times he helped me move and I only had to help move him 1 time. God is always helping us and in the way He does it can be truly amazing. God Bless and I hope we can all be glad how blessed we are if in fact we only have one friend.

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    Conversation LeaderEd (Strategic Advancement)

    in reply to Niels Pedersen

    Niels…your Facebook reflections reminded me of another quote I recently saw that is funny, but too close to the truth. “One of the great uses of Twitter and Facebook will be to prove at the Last Day that prayerlessness was not from lack of time.”

    I’m praying that God will provide you with more “true” friends that will enjoy the journey with you. Jesus called the twelve, first, to be “with him”. He later taught them to be fishers of men. Humbling. The savior of the world actually desired, wanted, and enjoyed friendship. He realized, while he could do it alone, it wasn’t the road to take.

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    Conversation LeaderCarrie (Discovery Island)

    in reply to Niels Pedersen

    I had a time in my life where I longed for some deep relationships. Someone challenged me to pray that God would bring some my way. I did that for awhile, and then I added to my prayer “God help me keep my eyes open for people who might need my friendship too”. It was such a great time in my life making new relationships. Some became those deep friendships I was longing for. I was glad I took the challenge.

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  Conversation LeaderEd (Strategic Advancement)

  When is saying NOTHING is the right answer. Often in ministry (and life), I’ve been approached because people trust me, consider me wise (shocking), or think I have an answer, etc. It is humbling and an honor. But sometimes, we have nothing to say. Let me explain.

  I received a call a few years ago from a friend. She had just received the type of phone call that nobody is ever prepared for, or wants. The authorities had notified the family that their son (her brother) had committed suicide. No note left behind…no answers. What do you say? Adding to the tension, it was the third such call I’d received in a year.

  The family asked me to visit and minister to them at their vacation home. As my wife and I left for the house, I felt strongly that the appropriate response was to listen…to pray…and to listen more. Sharing, I believe, is overrated. The power of presence, the Word of God, and a warm embrace did more that day than anything I could’ve humanly shared.

  Wisdom takes courage…courage to do what often the world chooses NOT to do, nor consider. Don’t be afraid to take bold steps on behalf of the Kingdom, when truly led by Christ.

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    CathyM

    in reply to Ed (Strategic Advancement)

    Sometimes when we try to find the right words to say, we try to come up with something religious,or pious sounding, we say the wrong thing, but God will use something insignificant that we have said in a profound way. It is important to simply be real.

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  Conversation LeaderCarrie (Discovery Island)

  Great “Conversation” today! Sleep tight and we’ll see who’s on tomorrow! Pass on the devotional. You never know who might need it!

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  Ronald Ponkey

  I felt wonderful when I was Baptized at Northridge month earlier and now I will attend a New Member Service but I have so much work to do in my life. I need to repair much damage from my earlier years….As Joyce Meyers said, “I am not where I belong but I am not where I was….” Northridge with their excellent and patient staff are helping me strengthen my life and commitment to Jesus Christ but I have a lot of work yet ahead of me….more then I can handle but God can cut it thank goodness….

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    Conversation LeaderCarrie (Discovery Island)

    in reply to Ronald Ponkey

    Ronald, we are here as a church to support you on your journey!! That’s what the body of Christ does. We are meant to encourage and stir each other toward good and better things. Keep growing Let His word guide you and encourage you as you hold tight to Him.

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    mike

    in reply to Carrie (Discovery Island)

    Ronald. Congrats on your journey. You will not be let down. God will touch your life, dont feel bad for missing a service. A relationship with God is always relevant. He is always there to talk to, look for advice or just listen. Northridge service is great at motivating and directing you on your journey as well as recharging your batteries. But church service is not the end, it is just the beginning.

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  Conversation LeaderCarrie (Discovery Island)

  I read something today in a book called “My Utmost For His Highest” and I think it goes hand and hand with what we are talking about. It says, “Have you been asking God what He is going to do? He will never tell you. God does not tell you what He is going to do: He reveals to you Who He is.” His scripture is full of promises that we can hold on to. When we are in the dark places, if we are not committed to knowing His words ahead of time, we might not be able to focus on Him. Our circumstances tend to weigh heavy and we get clouded. So, claim who He is today so we can be prepared for tomorrow.

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    Jen B

    in reply to Carrie (Discovery Island)

    That quote really hit home with me, Carrie. The biggest struggle in my search for wisdom is to stop trying so hard to figure everything out on my own and to give complete ownership of my life to God. For most of my life I prayed for God to show me what he wanted me to do. I used to get frustrated because I didn’t feel like he was giving me any direction and things weren’t shaping up the way I planned. During the past few years I have consciously changed my prayer to asking God to help me be the person he created me to be and to lead me to the purpose he has for my life. Once my prayer changed from me-focused to God-focused, amazing opportunities have come my way that I never would have imagined or pursued on my own. Every time I find myself slipping into anxiety or self-doubt, I remind myself that “with God’s power working in us, God can do much, much more than anything we can ask or imagine.” (Ephesians 3:20)

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    Michelle

    in reply to Carrie (Discovery Island)

    “My Utmost for His Highest”… great devotional. This makes me think of my mom….what a deep book full of wisdom!! She has spent my entire adult life reminding me of God’s promises when I didn’t remember them myself.

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  Conversation LeaderEd (Strategic Advancement)

  Ronald, it is great to have you here! You represent the life that so many of us lead…and we are on that journey together. It is a marathon, not a sprint. Our staff team here had a devotional in Galations 5:16-26 this morning. I hope it is your guide as we go through the day/week.

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  Conversation LeaderEd (Strategic Advancement)

  Good evening everyone! With a three week old son, I have plenty of time to be up, reflect and write:). I hope the devotional and talk is still brewing in your thoughts. Thought #2 from the I Kings passage is Solomon highly valued and respected those he lead. As I seek wisdom in my own leadership, my goal is not simply that people DO what I want them to DO, but rather they make fully-owned choices that draw them closer to God. Even as I endeavor to influence people I honor and respect them.

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  mike

  With wisdom im reminded that it is right here in front of us in his book. Can we really think that man has not gone through our struggles before? We are not alone. God is with us and man has experienced it. God will guide us through it. We just need to give it to him. The truth is in his book. With Gods book we have to remember God is not a memory. God is alive and relevant today!! Praise him.

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    Conversation LeaderEd (Strategic Advancement)

    in reply to mike

    So true Mike. When the Word comes alive, it always challenges us to a higher plan of living. As you said, it provide endless accounts of real people who made both good and bad choices, so that we could learn from them. Thanks for your insights….

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    Conversation LeaderCarrie (Discovery Island)

    in reply to mike

    I am so grateful for the people in my life that I look to for counsel who have walked a similar road to me. I can take the good and bad from their situation and apply to my own life. If they are walking with God themselves they are easy to follow!!! I am thankful He is alive and relevant as well!

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  Patrice W

  Psalm 119 changed my life. I realized that my only lifeline in my walk is the word and I wanted to have a Psalm 119 attitude. At this point I can attest to the learn it before you need it idea because I cling to this Psalm at crucial moments in my life. I have a little girl who is two and it dawned on me a little while ago that it is my job to teach her how to relate to God. I am so glad that I can just ask God for wisdom on how to raise her to be a godly woman. What a huge responsibility! Thank God that I can just ask.

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    Conversation LeaderJosh (Social Media Pastor)

    in reply to Patrice W

    That is such a humbling thought that God gives us the responsibility to teach our children who God is and introduce them to Him. I was praying next to my little boy just last night and it was so amazing and challenging to listen to his little prayers.

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    Patrice W

    in reply to Josh (Social Media Pastor)

    I agree. I chuckle because sometimes my daughters prayers are about elmo and her toys but she really prays for what she loves.

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    Conversation LeaderEd (Strategic Advancement)

    in reply to Patrice W

    Thanks Patrice! I was just talking with some friends about this topic this morning. There is a great resource out there at http://www.legacymilestones.com. Check it out! It is good to know that there are people out there wrestling with the same questions…and there are answers!

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    Patrice W

    in reply to Ed (Strategic Advancement)

    Thanks Ed. I did a quick browse and this looks like some great stuff for me and my husband to take a look at. I really appreciate it. My baby is absorbing things so quickly that I want to capitalize on this time when she is wanting to learn so much. I

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    Conversation LeaderCarrie (Discovery Island)

    in reply to Patrice W

    I too am challenged by that thought of our kids learning from us and I recently heard from a speaker that we are the “truth” to them. So, if we show them and act on what God is teaching us then they will see the “truth” as well. If God is walking in us, we are part of their firm foundation in Christ.

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    Patrice W

    in reply to Carrie (Discovery Island)

    Thanks for replying Carrie (By the way I LOVE DISCOVERY ISLAND) The reality hit me when I was at a concert and I lifted my hands in worship and my daughter copied me. I said amen or hallelujah and she said it. I clapped and she clapped. All of a sudden I realized that even though she may not know exactly what I am doing or why seeing me living out my faith is going to cause her to mimic that until she is old enough to get a better understanding.

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  CathyM

  I just re-read the challenge for the week, and when I related it to the question asked today on Facebook, “Wisdom gives us understanding beyond our experience. Is there wisdom you gained THROUGH experience that you wish you would have had BEFORE the experience?”, I saw the Chinese proverb in a different light.

  Yes, our God is a God of second chances, but that doesn’t mean we don’t have consequences to live with as a result of not planting the tree 20 years ago. I don’t have the strength, the shade, the stability afforded me by the 20 year old right choices. I have to live with the natural consequences that come from the mistakes I made.

  So often I hear people say that our children need to make their own mistakes so they can learn. I think that is a wrong attitude to have because in 20 years our children will be wishing they had planted the tree 20 years ago as well.

  Patrice W pointed out that it is our responsibility to raise our children to follow in Christ’s footsteps and she is right on the money on that one. The best way to show them what it means to follow Christ is to set the example early. We need to allow our children to see us in the Word, in prayer, in service for God; they need to see us making the right choices now, so that they see what that looks like.

  I think the thing that I have learned in the last couple of years is that being a parent doesn’t stop when our children become adults, it just changes. We can never let our guard down when it comes to our children, because the enemy is out there prowling around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour (1 Peter 5:8). Whether it is us the enemy is looking for or our children, we need to teach them to guard their hearts (Proverbs 4:23)so that they make the right choices. Again, the best way to teach them this is by example.

  Oh how I wish I had planted the tree 20 years ago.

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    Patrice W

    in reply to CathyM

    Cathy I am young in the parenting game but I PRAY that I can get some wisdom beyond my experience that will give me the 20 year strength and stability you talked about. Prov 1 talked about giving knowledge and discretion to the young–I will be the first in line for a dose of that. I made some terrible choices when I was a younger. I dont want my children to even come close to the things I saw/did. My hope now is that the life I am living in Christ is a good example to my baby girl. The thought of raising my child in a way that I was not raised (I had great parents but they were not believers) is exciting scary and sobering all at the same time. I can honestly say that I haven’t the foggiest clue of what to do or how to do it. I have a great husband that was raised d in a Christian family so that helps. But we both realize day to day that this is gonna make us depend on God in ways we have never done before. Thanks for Sharing about parenting beyond the kids being grown. My mom is one of the wisest people I know and she always shares that wisdom with me even now. Some of it came when we (the kids) were much older but she is humble enough to admit her parenting mistakes and encourage us (my sisters and I) to be better wives and mothers. That is the best gift she can give me now that I am older.

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    Conversation LeaderEd (Strategic Advancement)

    in reply to CathyM

    Cathy, thank you for sharing your heart. I’m so glad that God is leading you and that you are investing in the next 20, while learning from the past. You and Patrice are inspiring us this morning.

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    Conversation LeaderCarrie (Discovery Island)

    in reply to CathyM

    I am going to pray the Satan does not devour either one of you. Keep your armor on so that when the darts come your way, God is in control and not us. Keep planting trees, love that btw, for the future and prepare the way for what God has in store for you!

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  Gail Neal

  Day 4 of reading a chapter of Proverbs a day.

  A challenge to anyone who’s game: Publicly commit to read a chapter a day of Proverbs for the next 30 days. Caution: once you start, it could become a habit — but a good one!!!

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    Ronald Ponkey

    in reply to Gail Neal

    I try…after all it is Wisdom!

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  Ronald Ponkey

  I awoke this morning feeling better after being welcomed last night as a New member at Northridge…seeing all those members clapping from the stage sent a chill down my back and a lump in my throat….now the work really begins. I want to make friends and find a group in my age area….so I can make friends and study together….I am finally home at Northridge…ahhhhhh

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    CathyM

    in reply to Ronald Ponkey

    Ronald, welcome officially to the Northridge Family! I will tell you that God has done amazing things in my life through the investment of people at our church. He is amazingly good! The greatest gift you can give yourself is a small group that you can grow with, learn from and invest in.

    Blessings Beyond Bro!

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    Jennifer

    in reply to Ronald Ponkey

    Ronald, I remember my New Member service, too! It was awesome. I’m so glad you chose NRC to be your home. You will never regret becoming part of our church family. Big things are in store for you! Good luck on your journey!

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    Greg G

    in reply to Ronald Ponkey

    Ronald, I was there to support your decision of Baptism. This was an electric time and I could feel the Holy Spirit in the air as you were Baptised. There is so much elightenment here and I pray you will benefit for all it has to offer. Best wishes to you from one searcher to another.

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    Conversation LeaderEd (Strategic Advancement)

    in reply to Ronald Ponkey

    Good morning Ronald! As a member of the NorthRidge Staff, I too say welcome! As you start your search regarding a small group in your age/area, check out the small group section of our website. Steve Yarrow has done a GREAT job of reorganizing our groups into geographic regions, so you can find a group close to you. Check it out! Welcome home!

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  Mike Johnson

  Its funny, it always seems that when God has something he really wants to place on the sticky side of my brain, he will teach it, repeat it, and place it before me in so many ways. And then the “exams seem to come! This entire week has been exam week for me on “trust” and “wisdom” and if I were to grade myself honestly I think I might need to hit the books again. I would say I’m averageing about a C+ B-. the awesome thing about our God is that he always repeats the lessons until we get the passing grades. Of course, he always throws in the refresher courses later!

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    CathyM

    in reply to Mike Johnson

    Mike, one day you will wake up and the grade will be an A. Just keep your eyes focused on Jesus.

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    Mike Johnson

    in reply to CathyM

    Thanks Cathy! Thats just what I am gonna do.

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    Michelle

    in reply to Mike Johnson

    This is so true, Mike…your post made me laugh. Reminds me of the many times my mom tells me, “Well, God did allow the Israelites to keep going around that mountain and take 40 years to make an 11 day journey….and the amazing thing was that he still kept them fed each day and never let the soles of their shoes wear out!”. Well said, mom. I am assured that God will keep my shoes on as well, the decision to keep going around the mountain is up to me.

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    Mike Johnson

    in reply to Michelle

    Thanks to you also Michelle. I remember that story well about the israelites. Defineately encouraging! NRC family is the best! =-D

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    Conversation LeaderEd (Strategic Advancement)

    in reply to Mike Johnson

    MIke, isn’t it funny that he often provides us the SAME test until we actually pass it! God is concerned with our long-term growth, not short-term gains.

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  Greg G

  Wisdom seems like such an abstract thing to me. What does it mean? Knowing what to say at the right time? Knowing how to say the right thing? Knowing what is right? Knowing what is truth? Knowing how to respond to someone who victimizes you? Who hurtsa you? Who ridicules you? Sometimes I think I need to pray for understanding more than anything. I wish I could understand exactly what Wisdom is and how to achieve it. If I understood why people act the way they do, then maybe I could react to them wisely. Wisdom is only good if it can be applied when I am confronted with people issues, which is every day. Like that guy that just cut in frot of me on the freeway.

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    Jennifer

    in reply to Greg G

    I think you also have to be open to do your part, too, Greg. I feel we can pray for wisdom (you’re right, totally abstract!) and understanding, but we have to be ready to listen to God. I know for me, that isn’t easy, and when something isn’t easy, I tend to not want to do it. I am really working on training myself, though, and I’m trying to keep it simple. I am praying simply (literally, “Help me to trust You, God!”), and I am earnestly searching for His response instead of giving Him 60 seconds to answer a prayer then moving on because He obviously ignored me! None of this is easy for me at all, but I believe that taking the time to ask God for direction, then being genuinely willing to seek out and apply His response is helping me to focus. His responses are the guide I am using, not so much to understand others and why they do what they do, but to understand myself and to try to gain a strategy to apply His wisdom in my life.

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    Conversation LeaderEd (Strategic Advancement)

    in reply to Greg G

    Greg, thanks for your post. As a member of Generation X, wisdom often appears as an unfamiliar friend. It seems abstract, because it is often not our first thought or desire.Biblically speaking, it is simply the ability to judge correctly and follow the best course of action, based on God’s knowledge and understanding. Knowing God and his voice takes time. However, it is not a mystery…as it is revealed in His Word. I love how your post ends! It is the application of what is “right”, as well as the tension of being consistent in what we know is the wise choice, is where we often fail. I’ve found that applying wisdom consistently produces strength and Godly resolve to resist that which may not be the best for me. There are a lot of good things I could do today, but what is the “best” thing. God’s Word and community provides me with wisdom for those very routine choices that have far reaching implications…including chasing down that person who cut you off:).

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  His Kid

  As a very young Christian I was quite taken by the story of Solomon (1 Kings 3: 5-12) and his innocent request for discernment. I asked God for the same. As Brad exhorted in the message; I’m convicted and challenged to apply what God so graciously offers to any who will ask and take Him at His Word.

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    Conversation LeaderEd (Strategic Advancement)

    in reply to His Kid

    It was certainly a bold request. Solomon’s life, as he grew older, also offers a caution. He placed confidence in the wisdom God provided, not God himself…and he made some costly errors in his leadership and personal relationships. I’m learning, as you have rightly reminded us, that asking him daily is a much better proposition than going it alone in my own so-called wisdom.

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  Conversation LeaderEd (Strategic Advancement)

  WHY SHOULD WE PURSUE WISDOM? Well I’m glad you asked:) I thought about this in the early hours of this morning, when my three week old son decided he’d like to discuss the topic with me! Following and pursuing wisdom brings us in harmony with God’s plan for our lives. Additionally, wisdom gives us peace. I am a witness that you can have peace in the midst of often challenging situations. Proverbs 3:13-18 lets us know we are blessed if we find it (wisdom). We move from “self-esteem” to “God-esteem”. As we lean into him, His Word, and others that love him, he transforms our desires and heart. It does not come easily…or naturally, but I can assure you that it is more than worth the pursuit. Looking forward to growing together! See you this weekend.

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    Michele

    in reply to Ed (Strategic Advancement)

    Moving from self-esteem to God-esteem leads to more and more God-esteem and WIsdom! Love it!

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    His Kid

    in reply to Ed (Strategic Advancement)

    AMEN! The peace He brings is like a river — moving swiftly and many time turbulently over rocks, crags and other unpredictable territories; though, what is always certain is the outcome — sanctification, pure and clean!

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  Stacie

  When I think of wisdom according to God’s word, I think of humility. I think for many of us (myself included), it’s sometimes hard to gain wisdom because we won’t humble ourselves to the belief that God knows better. When we truly submit to this belief, not in just word, but always in deed, I think this is the best representation of wisdom.

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  Scott

  Even at a young age, many people said that I was very wise and mature beyond my years. As the years have passed, I demonstrated quite the opposite on many occassions. I pursued relationships that were far from wise; I made career decisions that were based on selfishness and money. The funny thing is, most of those decisions were made while I was an angry agnostic shaking my fists at the Lord. A little more than a year ago, I returned to faith. I no longer boast about how wise I am or how smart. I’ve also found that my decision making has improved. I face a very uncertain job situation right now with a possible layoff looming. A few years ago, I would have made a rash, knee-jerk decision to leave my current employer for another job, no matter the consequences. Now, as a Christ-follower, I’m waiting it out and asking for guidance while I study His Word.

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    Michele

    in reply to Scott

    You and I both share a common layoff possibility. I too recently went through the whole gamut of wanting to just quit, but I listened to God through His Word and He wants me to wait it out and keep asking for more wisdom! He seems to be giving this advise quite frequently this week! Good luck to you!

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    Conversation LeaderJosh (Social Media Pastor)

    in reply to Scott

    Scott and Michele, that is such a tough position to be in. I’m sorry. However, I’m encouraged by your stance of dependence on God. Stick with Him.

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  Michelle S.

  The ways God spoke to me about my life in ONE chapter of Proverbs tonight:

  * To let down my pride and pretenses so that God can actually use me for something so much better than I think that I am (Prov.25:4)
  * To not be so quick to defend myself to others, as inevitably I only end up making a fool out of myself and making the situation worse somehow (25:8)
  * To maybe not go to my parents’ house so often in case they get tired of me? lol (25:17)
  * To start repaying kindness and goodness to people in my life that I struggle with. First I need to pray for God to remove some deeply rooted bitterness, and maybe that will take awhile. But in the meantime, I will ask him to help me “act my way into right thinking” as Joyce Meyer would say, so that God will reward me for my effort, even if that reward is simply FREEDOM from bitterness. (25:22)
  * To ask God to work some things out in me that will help me be more of a blessing to my husband. What could I change? What could I do differently that would be so completely and refreshingly “opposite” of me? (25:24)

  ….and this from just one chapter. I’m really appreciating this study, and just wanted to share some ways God spoke to me tonight.

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    Conversation LeaderJosh (Social Media Pastor)

    in reply to Michelle S.

    Nice. That’s a whole lot a wisdom packed in to one chapter!

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    His Kid

    in reply to Josh (Social Media Pastor)

    Such relief to understand it isn’t us that make those changes — it is us that make the choice to yield our lives in complete surrender to Him; THEN, He does the rest! Christ in us the hope of glory!

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  James Hendee

  It seems wisdom has many attributes. If we used wisdom instead of emotions with our finances we might find a better path to (Dave Ramsey-ish) Financial Peace. When we mess up, and slap our palms to our foreheads saying “what was I thinking?” (from a Brad sermon a few weeks ago…) it seems wisdom would have helped us to NOT mess up. There are two paths the Bible says, one is wide and lots of folks travel it, and one is narrow and few travel that one. Taking one path or the other is a cognitive choice. Cognition can benefit from wisdom. We might have some faculties about us that in our spirit wish to follow the narrow path with no compromise, but as we learn in the scriptures, our flesh is weak. Asking for wisdom would then be something that would attach to the “I want to serve God with no compromise” side of our decision making process. Asking for wisdom, and then RECEIVING wisdom from God makes wisdom a type of spiritual thing. Since God is spirit and we can’t necessarily see him or touch him, when his wisdom touches us, it seems to do so through the Spirit. As I am writing this I don’t think I had ever thought of wisdom as a spiritual gift from God before. Wisdom being a thing just on the planet, just something in our minds alone. But like that picture Michaelangelo painted of God’s finger touching Adam’s finger (the “Creation of Adam” on the Sistine Chapel ceiling…), I can imagine God touching my forehead and increasing my wisdom. I so need Go’ds wisdom. On my own I am lost, mistake-driven, and I foul up most everything. But with a relationship with the living King of Kings, therewith I find my successes.

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